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		<title>By: Clear Blue Dei &#124; Web 2.0 - Do you trust online sites to protect your data?</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-36484</link>
		<dc:creator>Clear Blue Dei &#124; Web 2.0 - Do you trust online sites to protect your data?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:16:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I tried to follow a link on Technosophia about a post on Library Web Chic about a post on code4lib regarding an MLS degree for library technology postings. Since this is something I have some opinions on and am thinking about for a post, I was very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I tried to follow a link on Technosophia about a post on Library Web Chic about a post on code4lib regarding an MLS degree for library technology postings. Since this is something I have some opinions on and am thinking about for a post, I was very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clear Blue Dei &#124; Web 2.0 - What does an Organization Really Need to Get There?</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-36483</link>
		<dc:creator>Clear Blue Dei &#124; Web 2.0 - What does an Organization Really Need to Get There?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 00:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Library Technology, a post on Why require an MLS for library technologist about a post on code4lib regarding an MLS degree for library technology postings (which unfortunately is currently unavailable since all code4lib.org sites are down). And here is [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Library Technology, a post on Why require an MLS for library technologist about a post on code4lib regarding an MLS degree for library technology postings (which unfortunately is currently unavailable since all code4lib.org sites are down). And here is [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Web 2.0 - Do you trust online sites to protect your data? &#171; My Weblog</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-36411</link>
		<dc:creator>Web 2.0 - Do you trust online sites to protect your data? &#171; My Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 03:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I tried to follow a link on Technosophia about a post on Library Web Chic about a post on code4lib regarding an MLS degree for library technology postings. Since this is something I have some opinions on and am thinking about for a post, I was very [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] I tried to follow a link on Technosophia about a post on Library Web Chic about a post on code4lib regarding an MLS degree for library technology postings. Since this is something I have some opinions on and am thinking about for a post, I was very [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Griffey</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-35773</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Griffey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jul 2007 01:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ross, 

Having recently advertised and filled a slot that was similar to this. Not quite as technically inclined, but certainly in the same ballpark. We pay significantly better...and we're a state school in TN.

We required an MLS because we had no choice. Our librarians are hired as tenure-track faculty, and thus have to have the terminal degree for the profession. We could possibly have given up the line, but once gone it is never coming back...and that librarian is then going to be in a very vulnerable position depending on the administration. Giving up a tenure line is insane in academia.

That's why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ross, </p>
<p>Having recently advertised and filled a slot that was similar to this. Not quite as technically inclined, but certainly in the same ballpark. We pay significantly better&#8230;and we&#8217;re a state school in TN.</p>
<p>We required an MLS because we had no choice. Our librarians are hired as tenure-track faculty, and thus have to have the terminal degree for the profession. We could possibly have given up the line, but once gone it is never coming back&#8230;and that librarian is then going to be in a very vulnerable position depending on the administration. Giving up a tenure line is insane in academia.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why.</p>
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		<title>By: johnd</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-34457</link>
		<dc:creator>johnd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jul 2007 05:43:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, good luck to them. It ain't 2002 anymore. People with good tech skills are pretty hard to find these days. Adding an MLS requirement will just about ensure an unfilled position, or a whole lot of on the job training.

Come to think of it, I have all the required qualifications, maybe I should apply ... oh wait, I haven't been paid that poorly since I started working in libraries over 10 years ago. Guess I'll pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, good luck to them. It ain&#8217;t 2002 anymore. People with good tech skills are pretty hard to find these days. Adding an MLS requirement will just about ensure an unfilled position, or a whole lot of on the job training.</p>
<p>Come to think of it, I have all the required qualifications, maybe I should apply &#8230; oh wait, I haven&#8217;t been paid that poorly since I started working in libraries over 10 years ago. Guess I&#8217;ll pass.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-34339</link>
		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 16:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Systems Librarian" implies head of dept. (such as it is).

Requiring that the person have an MLS means they're putting the position on a par ("professionally" speaking) with the other library departments.  This can be handy in certain situations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Systems Librarian&#8221; implies head of dept. (such as it is).</p>
<p>Requiring that the person have an MLS means they&#8217;re putting the position on a par (&#8221;professionally&#8221; speaking) with the other library departments.  This can be handy in certain situations.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-34212</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Jul 2007 04:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Similar to this recent posting on lita-l, for what looks like a pretty basic sysadmin position; seems like some places equate "works in a library" with "librarian" with "MLS":
http://lists.ala.org/wws/arc/lita-l/2007-07/msg00025.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Similar to this recent posting on lita-l, for what looks like a pretty basic sysadmin position; seems like some places equate &#8220;works in a library&#8221; with &#8220;librarian&#8221; with &#8220;MLS&#8221;:<br />
<a href="http://lists.ala.org/wws/arc/lita-l/2007-07/msg00025.html" rel="nofollow">http://lists.ala.org/wws/arc/lita-l/2007-07/msg00025.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Casey</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-34090</link>
		<dc:creator>Casey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 17:44:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the position needed to be classified as a librarian position for HR reasons (the job title is "systems librarian")?   

What I found weirdest about this posting is the requirement of "two years' full time technical support experience"... add that to the 2+ years development and sysadmin requirements and that adds up to somebody with at least 5 years of extremely specific tech experience and an MLS.  How many people in the entire US meet that description?  Having recently gone through a long fruitless search to fill a systems librarian position (paying almost twice as much as this one and not requiring an MLS), I can assure you it is a very, very shallow pool indeed.  

Also note that $39,000 is the starting salary for the "Term Librarian" position on the same page -- which requires no experience at all.  

I've found that library geek/systems librarians positions that require an MLS invariably pay significantly less than those that don't.  Pretty sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the position needed to be classified as a librarian position for HR reasons (the job title is &#8220;systems librarian&#8221;)?   </p>
<p>What I found weirdest about this posting is the requirement of &#8220;two years&#8217; full time technical support experience&#8221;&#8230; add that to the 2+ years development and sysadmin requirements and that adds up to somebody with at least 5 years of extremely specific tech experience and an MLS.  How many people in the entire US meet that description?  Having recently gone through a long fruitless search to fill a systems librarian position (paying almost twice as much as this one and not requiring an MLS), I can assure you it is a very, very shallow pool indeed.  </p>
<p>Also note that $39,000 is the starting salary for the &#8220;Term Librarian&#8221; position on the same page &#8212; which requires no experience at all.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve found that library geek/systems librarians positions that require an MLS invariably pay significantly less than those that don&#8217;t.  Pretty sad.</p>
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		<title>By: William</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-34048</link>
		<dc:creator>William</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 13:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree - it does not make any sense (and I say that as a hiring manager).  It may be listed as an MLS as developers will not work that cheaply.  

I have nearly fallen into the trap of indicating a 'requirement' when it is actually a desire.  Perhaps that is the case here - though looking for an MLS who is also a decent developer and with skills as a sysadmin would indicate a MUCH higher salary.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree - it does not make any sense (and I say that as a hiring manager).  It may be listed as an MLS as developers will not work that cheaply.  </p>
<p>I have nearly fallen into the trap of indicating a &#8216;requirement&#8217; when it is actually a desire.  Perhaps that is the case here - though looking for an MLS who is also a decent developer and with skills as a sysadmin would indicate a MUCH higher salary.</p>
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		<title>By: Ross</title>
		<link>http://dilettantes.code4lib.org/2007/07/union-card/#comment-34031</link>
		<dc:creator>Ross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jul 2007 10:49:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good point, Dan.  Nashville, while certainly cheaper than many larger U.S. cities, still has roughly the same cost of living as Atlanta or Dallas.

Emory currently has a similar position (that requires no MLS) that starts at $48,000.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, Dan.  Nashville, while certainly cheaper than many larger U.S. cities, still has roughly the same cost of living as Atlanta or Dallas.</p>
<p>Emory currently has a similar position (that requires no MLS) that starts at $48,000.</p>
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